[BillingsLUG] WAN to WAN help question

[dan]

I wouldnt really say that I'm an expert at pfsense or anything, I usually
pop into irc#pfsense when I try something new ;)

I usually offer to host because I have spare hardware, and conference room,
and a projector.

I think it would be cool to do a multi-city lug one of these days.  Seems
like anything above a lug is usually happening in some far-off city




On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Pippin Wallace <nippip at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dan, if you are ever up the Bozeman way and have time for pfsense LUG
> lab please let us know.
>
> Pippin
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:34 AM, dan <dandenson at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:12 AM, Mike Berry <madeinmontana at bresnan.net>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I would probably be looking at the pre-builds. Lol, I'm not that versed
> in
> >> the build-ur-own.
> >
> > Actually, getting a pfsense box setup is easier than a cisco.  If you pop
> > into #ubuntu-montana on freenode or even post on montana linux you could
> get
> > someone to put one together for you local to Billings or Bozeman.  I
> would
> > offer BUT because I suggested it you might see some sort of scandal :)
> also,
> > #pfsense on freenode is an excellent irc chan and they are very willing
> to
> > help.  You wont find the same with a Cisco.
> >>
> >> When you say re: the ciSCo, If you want multiple WAN, you will need an
> >> 1821 or better, does blgs to bzmn count as multiple?
> >
> > No, its the number of seperate internet connections you can use.  If you
> get
> > a box that can multi-wan you can have say a DSL and a Cable connection,
> or a
> > T1 and DSL, and you can load balance or fail over the connections.   An
> 881
> > has a single WAN port and wont let you VLAN out your WAN port or anything
> so
> > it can only have 1 WAN IP address, aka 1 WAN.  The 1821 and higher
> routers
> > allow you to add Ethernet modules, which means you can do up to 5 WAN
> ports
> > on a 1821 with 2 Ethernet WIC cards.  This is BIG$$$.  $1500 router +
> about
> > $500-$800 each for the WIC cards.
> > With Cisco I would say that it is *practically impossible to load balance
> > VPN, but you can do failover.  With pfsense, you can create two tunnels,
> one
> > on each WAN, and then load balance between them, if one goes down it
> > compensates.  For that matter, you can put a third connection on dialup,
> > give it a lower priority in the loadbalance/failover mechanism, and
> pfsense
> > can dial that when the other connection(s) are down.  You can add a droid
> > phone with wifi tether and install a wireless adapter in pfsense, again
> with
> > a lower priority, put that in the loadbalancing mechanism, and you can
> stack
> > those and have 2 WAN priority 1, Verizon on priority 2, and dialup on
> > priority 3, or even two dial ups on priority 3.  I have seen people using
> > pfsense to 'shotgun' 6 or more dial up modems in the forums.  basically,
> > pfsense is EXTREMELY flexible, much more so than a Cisco.  Also, you can
> > setup your pfsense box to a final, production state in no time flat.
>  Nice,
> > easy web GUI.
> > excuse the tangent there!
> >>
> >> And who is a reputable outlet for these? Any one?
> >
> >
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833150036&Tpk=cisco%20881
> > http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1482835
> > **note, if the picture shows wireless, it is the wrong picture.  That is
> the
> > 881W and is about $200-$250 more.
> > I would also caution you that if you have not worked on cisco IOS it may
> be
> > tough to configure yourself.  There is a web gui but it will only do VERY
> > basic things.  As soon as you put a specific route, or acl, or vpn
> option,
> > the webgui wont let you configure anything anymore.
> >>
> >> I will have to talk to you more, later, about the other OS, maybe I
> could
> >> suggest a LUG meeting demo from someone for those of us not so
> >> knowledgeable?
> >
> > Bozeman and Billings both have a LUG that has some skilled regulars.  I
> have
> > a conference room in Billings and would be more than happy to do the
> August
> > LUG on pfsense.  I think that it would be more appropriate to do a lab
> > instead of just a demo though, get some hands dirty :)
> >
> > I currently have 37 VPN tunnels on Cisco and a few on ipsec with pfsense
> and
> > a few mobile setups with openvpn in production.
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